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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Nov 7, 2011 9:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

Most of you know I am a pretty simple human being.

This is without a doubt one of the coolest videos I have ever seen.........their reaction from 0:45 - 0:55 gave me goosebumps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEgSlRarcC8

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Poster: wineland Date: Nov 7, 2011 9:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

Mrs. Wine and I saw something like this a couple years ago. We guessed it was birds but had no idea at the time what it was. That video is magical.

Right outside the lazy gate of winter's summer home
wondering where the nuthatch winters
Wings a mile long just carried the bird away

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 7, 2011 9:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

It's a comfort to know that there are still (just about) places in the world where wild spectacles like this still happen. I have memories as young boy (maybe five, six years old) of seeing huge flocks of starlings like this coming in to roost at night in Glasgow city centre but the numbers have dropped catastrophically in recent years.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 7, 2011 10:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

Cool indeed; however, I must point out that ANYTIME you want your bloody starlings BACK you can come and I will assist in collecting ~ one gazillion! They are kicking the crap out of our own, quite personable Gila woodpeckers, and in general, being a "brit nuisance" (hmmm) of themselves...

The idiot that introduced 80 (only 80!??) into Central Park ~120 yrs ago had no idea what he was getting us into! They have expanded across our once fair nation, blighting our sky and mumbling about "payback time" (not much of a song).

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 7, 2011 11:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

Can we work out some kind of exchange deal for your damn grey squirrels?

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Nov 7, 2011 11:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

Throw in a pound of haggis and you've got yourself a deal.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 7, 2011 12:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

Done. And a bottle of Clynelish to wash it down with.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Nov 7, 2011 12:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

Damn you, Scotsman!

So much to drink, so little time...

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Nov 7, 2011 12:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

If you two will accept a couple of fingers of Caol Ila 12, I'll bring that along as well.......?

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Nov 7, 2011 12:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

I say we all meet at Kennacraig and catch the ferry for a serious tour of the promised land.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Nov 7, 2011 12:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

I will personally guide the portion of the tour through Islay. We can stay at Hunter's Quay near Dunoon and lubricate our arteries with fish and chips from Anselmos.

Be forewarned that it will probably take two days each at the Lagavulin, Ardbeg and Springbank distilleries.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 7, 2011 1:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

Here's what I suggest. Start on Skye for a trip to Talisker, south to Tobermory, across to Oban, south again to Jura and then we go across the Sound of Islay to the treasures that await. Got to get acclimatised before you hit the heights. :-)

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Nov 8, 2011 6:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

Before I die I'd like to pay homage to my ancestors and take a bottle of Connemarra Peated Single Malt to the top of Skellig Michael and drink until the ghosts of ancient monks come out to discuss the definitive Darkstar.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 8, 2011 7:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

Now that, my friend, sounds like a grand ambition - and all the better for being so tantalisingly within the realms of possibility.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Nov 7, 2011 1:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

I swooned AND drooled..................

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 7, 2011 12:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

I went on a whisky diet recently. I've lost three days already...

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Nov 7, 2011 1:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

Come to this side of the pond next Columbus Day weekend for next year's Festy Experience and I will treat you to insane bluegrass/newgrass by the Infamous StringDusters and as many growlers of Devils Backbone Brewery IPA you can consume.....

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 7, 2011 2:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

"as many growlers of Devils Backbone Brewery IPA you can consume....."

that statement makes my mouth water. i've only had the pleasure of consuming an eight point ipa from the backbone one time, but the wonderful taste is something i'll never forget. if i didn't live 10 minutes from a brewery, i would probably have placed a mass order for some of that ipa by now. do you like the 8 or 10 point?

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Nov 7, 2011 3:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

"do you like the 8 or 10 point?"

Yes.

Actually, they had a "special" StringDuster IPA just for the Festy which I am pretty sure was their regular 10 point, as well as the 8 point. I think the 8 point won by a nose.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Nov 7, 2011 11:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

I used to use the Central Park story as way to describe loss of homeostasis in cancer when talking to lay audiences (including a US senator once). It's not as if the birds reproduce any faster at the individual level in the US compared to UK. There are simply no brakes on the system. Same for cancer, the cells don't have to divide any faster than non-cancer cells if they won't/can't die.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 7, 2011 4:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

What about the influence of Victorian Culture on reproduction in 1880? [Hmmm, is Rob THAT old?] I thought that was the whole point--freed of this oppressive and stifling influence the birds started reproducing like rabbits, and suddenly, all Hell broke loose.

;)

Of course, the vast majority of introductions fail miserably (and thankfully), but we really don't know what it is about the limits, ecologically, that are the key to expansion here, and stasis there; not that I am implying it matters a jot to your audience or the utility of the metaphor...

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 7, 2011 5:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

Probably a good thing that most introductions fail given the sometimes catastrophic consequences of those that don't. Stating the blindingly obvious of course but it's only going to be introductions that are already pretty well adapted to the new environment that are likely to succeed - like grey squirrels in our woods and starlings in your towns and farmlands, and rats and humans just about anywhere.

By the way, did you mean Larry's audience here, or elsewhere?

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Nov 7, 2011 7:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

I have an audience here?

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 8, 2011 7:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

Not so much an audience, more a diehard coterie of fanatics ready to dissect your every utterance for the merest scintilla of significance with which to lend purpose to their otherwise drab and meaningless lives.

Nahhh... maybe not.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Nov 8, 2011 7:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

You guys have only known me for a little over 4 years, there are people out there that have been waiting nearly 47 years me to utter anything with the merest scintilla of significance....

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 8, 2011 7:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

C'mon, man - don't crush all our hope.

:-)

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 7, 2011 5:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

I did mean L's aud (when telling his cancer/starling story); but, maybe he's actually lecturing well adapted rats in a dark, secret lab, subjecting them to all sorts of unimaginable scientific horrors (like reading my papers aloud?)...nah, he's not that evil.

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Poster: high flow Date: Nov 7, 2011 5:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

"lecturing well adapted rats in a dark, secret lab".....Why yes! He lectures us at a place we call Chatzy.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Nov 7, 2011 12:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

One minute it's the glory of nature putting on a display of stunning beauty....and then....cancer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f68VXKMZT1Q

Thanks, Buzz Killington.

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Poster: high flow Date: Nov 7, 2011 3:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0qgfqXU0P0&;feature=related

Great rock drummers revisited.....by Chester Cheetah.

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 7, 2011 2:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

IS THAT WILLIAM TELL!?

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Nov 8, 2011 6:41am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

Your powers of deduction would make Sherlock Holmes jealous.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 8, 2011 7:09am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

Are you calling my 10k posts a cancer on this Forum? A malignant growth of epic proportions, threatening to cut off the blood supply to the cranial compost pile--er, the "brain" of this operation, William Tell?

Well then, I guess that explains why I sometimes post in the third person, as we just never know who's running the show, eh?

And another thing--all that etoh you're consuming is likely to kill any cells without Irish ancestry, so watch it. 12 lbs of po tate toes a day soaks up a lot...

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Nov 8, 2011 7:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

I believe the comparison was more towards the focus of the clip, Buzz Killington, than it was his homicidal brother Cellular Killington. But, I will leave it to the reader to make their own decisions.

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 8, 2011 7:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

"I believe the comparison was more towards the focus of the clip, Buzz Killington"

correct. i like to picture wt with a top hat and a monocle, giggling at his own jokes :P

as for looks alone, that's exactly what i pictured that ugabooga guy here recently as looking like.

This post was modified by rdenirojb87 on 2011-11-08 15:50:45

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 8, 2011 7:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

As is well known around the parts, Tell favours a red smoking jacket and cravat when going about his posting duties.

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 8, 2011 8:13am
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my mistake. which one is tell?


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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 8, 2011 8:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

I couldn't possibly say. But looking at your round up of suspects I will say that Tell has never, to my knowledge, found additional cowbells to be a requirement under any circumstances.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Nov 8, 2011 8:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

I knew it was him!

hughhefner.jpg

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 8, 2011 8:23am
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LMAO, well done. Thanks for having the boys on Playboy After Dark WT! I always knew he had a deep secret. The cat's finally out of the bag.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Nov 8, 2011 8:29am
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Based on the wrinkles, I'm pretty sure he's sportin' a Nut Bra along with the pajamas.

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 8, 2011 8:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

no doubt about it. in case anybody forgot about this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOiaSy643B4

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 7, 2011 11:40am
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that is really a spectacular sight, thanks for posting this. so surreal looking. at times i almost thought i was watching cgi effects.

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Poster: user unknown Date: Nov 7, 2011 9:53am
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Wow!

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Poster: ice9freak Date: Nov 7, 2011 10:51am
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Very beautiful. I regularly see blackbirds here in Ohio twist and turn and funnel in large groups, but not THAT large. Most impressive!

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Nov 7, 2011 3:24pm
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Looks like something Tippi Hedren would be running from.

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Poster: high flow Date: Nov 7, 2011 1:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

http://vimeo.com/14356769

Here's what happens this time of year in my neck of the woods. The sheer number of Snow Geese is incredible.

Video gets good after 2 minutes.

We went out to watch the rice harvest last week and the little field dwelling creatures(Jack Rabbits, Rats and Snakes) were all scrambling for cover after the harvester cut the rice grass down. The Raptors were lurking like Dire on Welcome Newby Day here at LMA GD Forum.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Nov 7, 2011 2:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

Wow! That was an amazing clip high. Nice work to catch the heron croaking at the 2:37 mark. You get mostly greens and greys out your way don't you?

There is one sound in this world that will make me stop on a dime and crane my neck to listen and that is hearing Canadian geese on the fly.

We get mostly Canadian geese here on the Chesapeake flyway but there is one big flock of snows that comes through here every year - they always show up in the same field year after year, stay for a day or two and move on.

The Canadians will typically stay in large numbers well into the new year unless we get a big snowstorm, but they are around here all year.

Thanks for posting that.......

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 7, 2011 3:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

Reminds me of a time a few years ago when I was sitting outside a pub with some people just about sunset one evening. All of a sudden, out of nowhere it seemed, a big skein of Canada geese came cruising overhead, catching the last red rays of the sun. It was a breathtaking sight - but you know what? I was the only damn person who looked up. The rest of them didn't miss a beat yacking about mortgages and schools and their bosses or whatever. Sure these are important things, but you have to know when you're being handed a time out, don't you?

That invite by the way - if circumstances allow I would love to say yes. Let's see what life throws my way in the coming months.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Nov 8, 2011 7:41am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

As to the invite - I was 100% sincere. It's a standing invite too......

Lets hope life throws you a beachball sized, underhand, slow pitch you can knock out of the park.

Wait, what do you call it when a bowler tosses such a serving in that game of katydid or cricket or whatever insect that silly game is named after? =O

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 8, 2011 9:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: A Murmuration....(non-Dead)

Under the laws of cricket:
Law 24 (b) Underarm bowling shall not be permitted except by special agreement before the match.

Effectively it hasn't been seen in the modern game since about 1990.

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Poster: WillCo Date: Nov 8, 2011 8:54am
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I think you call that a donkey-drop. Love, love cricket!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDetective John Carter of Mars Date: Nov 7, 2011 6:28pm
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mirrored by somebody here too
http://www.archive.org/details/beckyactofnature

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 7, 2011 11:00am
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I just discussed the costs and benefits of social behavior in birds in lec today.

Forgot to mention: fun.

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Poster: rastamon Date: Nov 8, 2011 6:47am
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(non dead) Thread of the year :)

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Nov 8, 2011 7:15am
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A thread with:

Nature, cancer, IPAs, scotch, music festivals, squirrels, a post with the word "skein" in it (Top 10 post nominee in and of itself that one is), Connemara pot still whiskey and haggis?

I think so.....

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 8, 2011 7:25am
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This thread came straight from Dr Feelgood. Thanks for setting it in motion, Rick.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Nov 8, 2011 7:50am
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I still maintain you got the better nut-crunching end of the deal (rodent) relative to our overly aggressive bird-brains (starlings); if only the nightingales had taken instead of the starlings (the "real" Shakesperean bird afterall; did they really think it would make Central Park more refined if any of these birds "took"? Funny, at one level--as to how massively successful one was, while the other was not...I don't recall much of my Shakespeare, but starlings don't get nearly as much play as the nightingales, right?).

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Nov 8, 2011 8:04am
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I suppose it has something to do with nightingales being territorial while starlings are just a bunch of flockers.